[Debate] Everything you always wanted to know about the Commons?

[Socialism from below]

This talk was also very good – he deals concisely with the issue of the muslim brotherhood around 28 minutes. http://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=US&feature=player_embedded&v=TXi7P4ddreM. 

 

From: debate-list-bounces at fahamu.org [mailto:debate-list-bounces at fahamu.org] On Behalf Of lfcscally at hotmail.com
Sent: Friday, July 13, 2012 11:49 AM
To: peter waterman; Debate is a listserve that attempts to promote information and analyses of interest to the independent left in South and Southern Africa
Subject: Re: [Debate] Everything you always wanted to know about the Commons?

 

Am surprised by your reaction peter as you should know better that revolutions should be conceived  as a protracted process, that don't move in straight lines and are very messy. Making sense of the messiness is surely one if our tasks. In terms of the Muslim brotherhood and the revolution there was a very nuanced talk by Phil marfleet at the Marxism festival last week and its available in cd and he has written on.thus in.the socialist review. 
Sent from my HTC

----- Reply message -----
From: "peter waterman" <peterwaterman1936 at gmail.com>
To: "Debate is a listserve that attempts to promote information and analyses of interest to the independent left in South and Southern Africa" <debate-list at fahamu.org>
Subject: [Debate] Everything you always wanted to know about the Commons?
Date: Fri, Jul 13, 2012 09:47


In the midst of depressing news from the MENA region, where the options seems to be between secular and religious authoritarian state forms (with low-intensity liberal democracy as the only alternative), I am feeling more and more the need to focus on the Commons (the source of Marx' concept of Communism). After all, this is about struggles that can be carried out today, carrying out social emancipation rather than waiting for the ever-postponed revolution. This looks like a lively discussion on the matter. I know I should make time for it:

http://snuproject.wordpress.com/2012/07/08/the-future-of-occupy-newsletter-issue-3-occupying-the-commons/#more-2911

Let us all know what you think? I'll try to get back on Debate after If and when I have carried out my commitment here.

Pw

-- 
1. Contribute to Journal Special on 'New Worker Movements <http://www.interfacejournal.net/2011/06/call-for-papers-volume-4-issue-2-for-the-global-emancipation-of-labour-new-movements-and-struggles-around-work-workers-and-precarity/> '!
2. Blog: http://www.unionbook.org/profile/peterwaterman
3. EBook 2011, 'Under, Against, Beyond - Essays 1980s-                        1990s s <http://www.into-ebooks.com/book/under-against-beyond/> http://www.into-ebooks.com/book/under-against-beyond/

4. WorkingPaper <http://www.iisg.nl/publications/respap49.pdf>  2012: 'Emancipatory Labour Studies': 

5. Draft EBook 2012: 'Recovering Internationalism - Essays 2000-10' (draft):

     http://www.scribd.com/doc/82125289/ReCovIntComp-A-2 

     http://www.scribd.com/doc/82129474/ReCovtIntComp-B-2  

6. Essay 2012: 'The 2nd Coming of the World Federation of Trade <http://www.unionbook.org/profiles/blogs/peter-waterman-the-second-coming-of-the-wftu-updated>    Unions': 

 

-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: http://lists.fahamu.org/pipermail/debate-list/attachments/20120714/fa1e9bf0/attachment.htm