[Debate] On the accusations against me relating to the arrest of Ayanda Kota

[Jessie Lazar Knott]

Slip up there between the public and private buttons, then? Hey y'all ...
this is for jessie, ONLY ... geddit ...

I reply with a gracious bow, sounds like my anthem alright, definately got
my story in it, i especially like Nas' deep throated growl of: "I embrace
y'all with napalm" as effective production of what I been *forced* to
endure, yeah?!



On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 9:59 AM, Benjamin Fogel <gonzostig at gmail.com> wrote:

> This is directed at Jessie only
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ePQKD9iBfU
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 9:27 AM, Benjamin Fogel <gonzostig at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> That's some imaginative trolling, I will give you that. You really have
>> too much time on your hands...
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 9:12 AM, Jessie Lazar Knott <
>> jessielazarknott at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Coke whore
>>> of the consumate bore
>>> that sells words, and anything
>>> just to spin
>>> out
>>> on
>>> white dynamite
>>>
>>> All about need
>>> really
>>> a need to be
>>> a part
>>> of something
>>> said to be
>>> but not
>>> art
>>> or craft
>>>
>>> just wordy fuckers
>>> getting high
>>> and dry
>>> on the fibres of morality
>>> shaped by their little
>>> squiggles on a page
>>>
>>> all very new age
>>> and humdrum
>>> actually!
>>>
>>> pass me the credit card,
>>> mirror,
>>> and some of your mighty fine blow
>>>
>>> I'm low on classy-ness,
>>> though you'll find
>>> most disagree
>>>
>>> but that's only those
>>> who know
>>> how to really blow
>>> things up
>>>
>>>
>>> and that's me
>>> and my fly not-so-white
>>> and some yes
>>> homie guys
>>>
>>> snip snip you're dead.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 9:07 AM, Jessie Lazar Knott <
>>> jessielazarknott at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> You own her none-the-less, as "yours" ....
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 7:40 PM, Benjamin Fogel <gonzostig at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Jessie LK
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 7:19 PM, Mandi Smallhorne <
>>>>> mandiwrite at icon.co.za> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Ummm – who is this directed at? I never used the phrase “coke-whore”!
>>>>>> I think you’ll find it’s Jessie LK.****
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *From:* debate-list-bounces at fahamu.org [mailto:
>>>>>> debate-list-bounces at fahamu.org] *On Behalf Of *Benjamin Fogel
>>>>>> *Sent:* 20 January 2012 07:04 PM
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *To:* Debate is a listserve that attempts to promote information and
>>>>>> analyses of interest to the independent left in South and Southern Africa
>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [Debate] On the accusations against me relating to
>>>>>> the arrest of Ayanda Kota****
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ranting about my presumed "coke-whore"... Classy... Sigh and then you
>>>>>> tell us how to act with dignity.****
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 6:12 PM, Mandi Smallhorne <
>>>>>> mandiwrite at icon.co.za> wrote:****
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Wow. Thanks for this reminder, Riaz - what a dignified declaration.**
>>>>>> **
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: debate-list-bounces at fahamu.org [mailto:
>>>>>> debate-list-bounces at fahamu.org]****
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Behalf Of Riaz K Tayob
>>>>>> Sent: 20 January 2012 04:32 PM
>>>>>> To: Debate is a listserve that attempts to promote information and
>>>>>> analyses
>>>>>> of interest to the independent left in South and Southern Africa****
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Debate] On the accusations against me relating to the
>>>>>> arrest
>>>>>> of Ayanda Kota
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ****
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Frantz Fanon, Black Skin, White Masks. New York: Grove Press 2008, pp.
>>>>>> 201 6:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am a man, and what I have to recapture is the whole past of the
>>>>>> world.
>>>>>> I am not responsible solely for the slave revolt in Santo Domingo.
>>>>>> Every
>>>>>> time a man has contributed to the victory of the dignity of the
>>>>>> spirit,
>>>>>> every time a man has said no to an attempt to subjugate his fellows, I
>>>>>> have felt solidarity with his act. In no way does my basic vocation
>>>>>> have
>>>>>> to be drawn from the past of peoples of color. In no way do I have to
>>>>>> dedicate myself to reviving a black civilization unjustly ignored. I
>>>>>> will not make myself the man of any past. . . . My black skin is not a
>>>>>> repository for specific values . . . . Haven't I got better things to
>>>>>> do
>>>>>> on this earth than avenge the Blacks of the seventeenth century? . .
>>>>>> . I
>>>>>> as a man of color do not have the right to hope that in the white man
>>>>>> there will be a crystallization of guilt toward the past of my race. I
>>>>>> as a man of color do not have the right to seek ways of stamping down
>>>>>> the pride of my former master. I have neither the right nor the duty
>>>>>> to****
>>>>>>
>>>>>> demand reparations for my subjugated ancestors. cont (there is no
>>>>>> black
>>>>>> mission.)****
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There is no black mission; there is no white burden . . . . I do not
>>>>>> want to be the victim of the Ruse of a black world . . . . Am I going
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> ask today's white men to answer for the slave traders of the
>>>>>> seventeenth
>>>>>> century? Am I going to try by every means available to cause guilt to
>>>>>> burgeon in their souls? . . . I am not a slave to slavery that
>>>>>> dehumanized my ancestors . . . . it would be of enormous interest to
>>>>>> discover a black literature or architecture from the third century
>>>>>> before Christ. We would be overjoyed to learn of the existence of a
>>>>>> correspondence between some black philosopher and Plato. But we can
>>>>>> absolutely not see how this fact would change the lives of
>>>>>> eight-year-old kids working in the cane fields of Martinique or
>>>>>> Guadeloupe . . . . I find myself in the world and I recognize that I
>>>>>> have one right alone: That of demanding human behavior from the other.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2012/01/20 01:18 PM, Alan Murphy wrote:
>>>>>> > Do
>>>>>> > not blame the victims; Ayanda of the police, Claudia of social
>>>>>> > movements that have neglected enumerating simple codes of conduct
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> > setting up straight forward conflict resolution mechanisms.
>>>>>>
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