[Debate] Juan Cole on DN!: "Libya Has Reignited the Flame ofLiberty in the Arab World"

[Riaz K Tayob]

The neohumanitarians have relied upon the uniqueness of the Libya 
situation to advance their case for intervention. This is difficult to 
contest and it remains to be seen if principles for intervention are 
developed. In other words, is the a case for intervention in scenarios 
that do not suit the proclivities of the North.

And making the case is certainly different from sustaining the case. The 
rebels/TNC are perhaps the reality now (Saif parades cast some doubt) 
and the initial case made by the likes Achcar will need to be looked. 
What safeguards were demanded to be put in place... as far as I recall 
felicity to the UNSC (but even that was not accepted). Let us see if 
they are strident about non-interference in the affairs of the Libyan 
people or if it is time for "payback". Perhaps the bill is in the mail 
already.

Neohumanitarians certainly have their work cut out for them and let us 
hope things are peaceful and amicably resolved with classical self 
determination. Perhaps the next unique situation will arise sooner than 
we think... and we can see what lessons neohumanitarians have learnt.

And let us hope that the anti-Libyan interventionists were wrong!

On 2011/08/23 11:36 AM, grinker at mweb.co.za wrote:
>
> "Anything is better.." - by this I assume you mean NATO's brutal 
> intervention and the likely reimposition of the West's domination in 
> Libya? If the Iraq model of humanitarian intervention is anything to 
> go by, the situation in Libya could in fact still end up a lot worse 
> than even under Gadaffi.
>
> It seems that for some on this list, having long since given up any 
> hope of a truly democratic emancipatory project, reliance on the 
> imperial master to free Africa is effectively the last resort.
>
>
>
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>
> *From: *Devan.Pillay at wits.ac.za
> *Sent:*2011-08-23 10:05:19
> *To: *debate-list at fahamu.org
> *Cc: *
> *Subject:* Re: [Debate] Juan Cole on DN!: "Libya Has Reignited the 
> Flame ofLiberty in the Arab World"
>
> " IMHO, Libya is
> threatening to transform the the drama of Arab revolt into an Arab
> farce."
>
> Maybe - but these bastard dictators have been messing around with our 
> people for far too long.....anything is better, at least it opens up a 
> space for renewal and the possibility of democracy.
>
> If we're on the Left we must be clear:  dictators ARE NOT, AND MUST 
> NEVER BE, OUR FRIENDS!!!!!
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Yoshie Furuhashi [mailto:critical.montages at gmail.com]
> Sent: Tue 23/08/2011 05:59
> To: Debate
> Subject: [Debate] Juan Cole on DN!: "Libya Has Reignited the Flame of 
> Liberty in the Arab World"
>
> Meanwhile, on Amy Goodman's DemocracyNow! (at
> <http://www.democracynow.org/2011/8/22/libya_has_reignited_the_flame_of>),
> Juan Cole said today, "Well, Libya, in a way, has reignited the flame
> of liberty in the Arab world. It's given new hope, a new charge to
> people in Cairo, in Tunis, and certainly in Syria."  IMHO, Libya is
> threatening to transform the the drama of Arab revolt into an Arab
> farce.
> --
> Yoshie Furuhashi
> <http://mrzine.org/>
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