[Debate] Turkish warplanes attack PKK targets in Iraq

Yoshie Furuhashi critical.montages at gmail.com
Fri Aug 19 14:30:55 BST 2011


R2P reminds me of Anatole France's saying: "The law, in its majestic
equality, forbids the rich and the poor alike to sleep under bridges,
to beg in the streets, and to steal bread."

On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 1:52 AM, Riaz K Tayob <riaz.tayob at gmail.com> wrote:
> And this is the problem with the Responsibility to Protect... it is
> effectively not applicable to UNSC permanent members (because of the
> veto), to their allies, and as clarified by Egypt if I recall at the
> discussion not applicable to occupied territories....
>
> On 2011/08/18 06:06 PM, Yoshie Furuhashi wrote:
>> Again, we all know that credible international threat can't be issued
>> against countries like the US, China, Israel, and Russia that have
>> nuclear deterrence.  Turkey doesn't have its own nuclear bombs, to be
>> sure, but it remains a US ally under the AKP, too, and has US nuclear
>> bombs on its territory (cf.
>> <http://www.thebulletin.org/web-edition/features/the-status-of-us-nuclear-weapons-turkey>).
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 11:01 AM, Ran Greenstein<rangreen at sn.apc.org>  wrote:
>>> Not being a Marxist, and without commanding any armed forces, I would
>>> settle simply for any credible international threat - acting as a
>>> deterrent - to the interests of oppressive states (be they aligned to
>>> the US, such as Israel or Turkey, or to Russia/China, or to their own
>>> independent institutions)
>>>
>>> On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 4:54 PM, Yoshie Furuhashi
>>> <critical.montages at gmail.com>  wrote:
>>>> You can't call Turkey bombing northern Iraq an exercise of its
>>>> "sovereignty" since Iraq is not part of Turkey.  So, seen technically,
>>>> this case, like the 2007 Israeli bombing of a planned nuclear reactor
>>>> in Syria, would be a better candidate for UNSC concern than the civil
>>>> war in Libya or Syria.  But we all know that what the UNSC takes up is
>>>> what the great powers want to take up, having nothing to do with
>>>> relative merits of cases.
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