Fwd: Re: Re: Re: Re: [DEBATE] : (Fwd) Class war: well deserved, old chaps

[grinker at mweb.co.za]

Damn! Caught on the wrong side of class lines yet again!  By the way, Dom, whatever happened to "combatting spontaneity"? Mind you, I suppose we're still back in 1850 at the moment, so I trust you'll think about following the advice below in future:

"At the moment, while the democratic petty bourgeois are everywhere oppressed, they preach to the proletariat general unity and reconciliation; they extend the hand of friendship, and seek to found a great opposition party which will embrace all shades of democratic opinion; that is, they seek to ensnare the workers in a party organization in which general social-democratic phrases prevail while their particular interests are kept hidden behind, and in which, for the sake of preserving the peace, the specific demands of the proletariat may not be presented. Such a unity would be to their advantage alone and to the complete disadvantage of the proletariat. The proletariat would lose all its hard-won independent position and be reduced once more to a mere appendage of official bourgeois democracy. This unity must therefore be resisted in the most decisive manner. Instead of lowering themselves to the level of an applauding chorus, the workers, and above all the League, must work for the creation of an independent organization of the workers' party, both secret and open, and alongside the official democrats, and the League must aim to make every one of its communes a center and nucleus of workers' associations in which the position and interests of the proletariat can be discussed free from bourgeois influence."




 

 










From: dominic.tweedie at gmail.com
Sent:2009-03-30 21:18:37
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Subject: Re: Re: Re: [DEBATE] : (Fwd) Class war: well deserved, old chaps Tear down the walls! Burn, baby, burn! Sieze the time! Eat the rich!
Permanent Revolution! Germinal! Madame de Farge! Spartacus!

Which side are you on Russell?

When did you repudiate the March, 1850, Address to the Central Committee of
the Communist League?

Domza "Expropriate the Expropriators" VC



2009/3/30 

> Like wow I don't really know Patrick - just go with the flow man...wherever
> your passionate indignation takes you that's just cool man...
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> From: pbond at mail.ngo.za
> Sent:2009-03-30 11:54:05
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> Subject: Re: [DEBATE] : (Fwd) Class war: well deserved, old chaps
> More reactionary distractionism from our dear friends at spiked... what
> exactly do they suggest so-called postsocalledanticapitalists do with
> their free time and energy, then Russell?
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> grinker at mweb.co.za wrote:
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> > ...There are far more important things to get angry about than a few
> individuals’ big bonuses, and far better ways to do something about the
> capitalist crisis than chasing after former bankers turned pariahs. Forget
> the phoney war against Goodwin - let’s have a proper war against the cynical
> blame-avoidance of our rulers and the low horizons of their alleged critics.
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