[DEBATE] : [Fwd: Fwd: Re: [Wsfic_fsmci] Letter from WSF Liaison Group members]
p.waterman at inter.nl.net
Sun Apr 5 21:45:35 BST 2009
[Peter Waterman says: I do not know who this person is, but I think the
country code is for Senegal. No doubt the name will be familiar either
to Cosatu or to other South Africans involved with the World or African
Now read on:
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Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2009 19:40:40 +0000
From: "Rabia ABDELKRIM CHIKH" <rabia at enda.sn>
Reply-To: wsfic_fsmci at listas.rits.org.br
Subject: Re: [Wsfic_fsmci] Letter from WSF Liaison Group members
To: wsfic_fsmci at listas.rits.org.br
Dear friends and comrades
1.My position (discussed in our organisation) about the next IC
meeting is that if the criteria for going somewhere , are values and
principles of the states policies, there are very few countries which
are acceptable, at least because of their "acceptance", complicity
with the neo liberal rules and policies, abandonning the peoples to
poverty and misery.
2.The IC is not invited by the state of Morocco but by social movments
of Morocco and Maghreb.
3.For us , who have had fight for a long time for peoples ' Maghreb(
with many experiences with trades unions, women movments ... which
all failed) it is very important to see the strategic steps achieved
by the social movments of Morocco gathering social movments from
all the north of our continent, including sahraoui movments.
The consolidation of these movments could reinforce the independance
of social movments from states policies and help the processes of
peace and independance of Sahraoui people.
we have had contradictions and we still have divergences but debates
and dialogs are the opportunity to learn together how to do new
politics , other politics possible .
All the best, in solidarity
cher(e)s ami(e)s et camarades
1.Ma position(discutÃ©e dans notre organisation) Ã propos du prochain
CI , est que si les critÃ¨res pour aller quelque part, sont basÃ©es sur
les valeurs et les principes des politiques des Ã©tats, il y a trÃ¨speu
de pays qui sont acceptables, au moins Ã cause de leur abdication et
complicitÃ© avec les rÃ¨gles et politiques nÃ©o libÃ©rales, en
abandonnant les peuples Ã la pauvretÃ© et Ã la misÃ¨re.
2.le CI n'est pas invitÃ© par l'Ã©tat du Maroc mais les mouvements
sociaux marocains et maghÃ©bins.
3.Pour nous qui avons lutter depuis longtemps pour un Maghreb des
peuples(avec beaucoup d'expÃ©riences des syndicats, des mouvements de
femmes...qui ont toutes Ã©chouÃ©es), il est trÃ¨s important de voir les
Ã©tapes stratÃ©giques rÃ©alisÃ©es par les mouvements sociauxdu Maroc
rassemblant les mouvements sociaux de tout le nord de notre continent
, avec l'inclusion des mouvements sociaux du Sahara.
La consolidation de ces mouvements pourraient renforcer l(indÃ©pendance
des mouvements sociaux des politiques desÃ©tats et appuyer les
processus de paix et d'independance du peuple sahraroui.
Nous avons eu des contradictions et nous en avons encore, mais
dialogues et dÃ©bats pourraient Ãªtre l'occasion d'apprendre ensemble
comment faire une nouvelle politique, d'autres faÃ§ons possibles de
faire du poltique.
Le 30 mars 09 Ã 19:08, WSFIC_FSMCI a Ã©crit :
> Dear Members of the IC:
> The Liaison Group which is entrusted with the job of organizing the
> next IC meeting has been approached by one of the members of the
> International Council, i.e COSATU, the South African trade union,
> objecting to the venue of the venue of the next meeting ie Rabat,
> Morocco. They addressed a letter to the LG with their objections.
> (see attached).
> The LG found itself in a peculiar position since it is only an
> implementing body and is not empowered to change IC decisions after
> the IC meetings. The structure of the social forum does not allow
> for representative bodies, and there is no methodology as yet for
> changing IC decisions between meetings except to discuss it on the
> list and getting concurrence of all the members of the IC.
> The LG contacted the local hosts in Morocco and communicated the
> objections raised by COSATU. The Moroccan organizations responded
> from their side (attached). One of the main objections raised by
> COSATU comrades is the fact that Morocco is still illegally
> occupying Western Sahara, and it would like to express its
> solidarity with the Sahrawi people. The Moroccan host organizations
> have clarified that they do not support the monarchy or the
> occupation and a number of Sahrawi organizations are supporting the
> meeting and they have participated in the Maghreb Social Forum that
> was held in Morocco.
> Unfortunately although COSATU was present in the last IC the
> representatives had to leave early and could not express its
> objections in the meeting. But they did discuss their objection with
> other members of the IC.
> The ICâs decision to hold the next IC meeting in Morocco is a
> considered one. The reasons were as follows: a) it is very
> important to expand the social forum process to the Arab countries;
> b) The Maghreb Social Forum is doing important work of south-south
> expansion toward the Mashrek countries on behalf of Expansion
> Commission and they took the responsibility to organize, on the
> same days of IC, a very important seminar towards preparing an Arab
> Forum including movements from Palestine, Lebanon, Syria, Iraq and
> Middle East countries: c) because the Moroccan organizations are
> independent, they oppose government policy, and they have created a
> space of dialogue for just peace with Sahrawi people.
> If there was more time available the points raised by COSATU could
> have been discussed on the list before the IC meeting beginning May
> 6th. But there is not enough time. This does not mean the discussion
> cannot be continued during the IC meeting and before and after.
> We hope that all this and the clarifications given by the Moroccan
> comrades will satisfy friends in COSATU, that they will also
> participate in the IC meeting in Rabat (May 6-9th) and place their
> views. Their presence in this meeting is crucial, not just because
> of the issues they have raised, but also because the meeting is in
> African continent and COSATU is an extremely important part of the
> African movements as well as the International Council.
> COSATU has asked that guidelines should be drafted as to where
> meetings of the IC can or cannot be held. It would be useful if
> they or other organizations should indeed work on such guidelines.
> Discussion on such guidelines could be included in the agenda of the
> next IC and continued thereafter.
> Please refer to the letters which have been attached here
> In solidarity
> Members of the Liaison Group:
> Chico Whitaker, Gina Vargas, Moema Miranda, Raffaella Bolini, Hector
> de la Cueva, Ana Maria Prestes, Alexandre Bento, Wilhelmina Trout,
> Jose Miguel Mederos, Changgeun Lee, Meena Menon.<letter from
> COSATU.doc><letter from Moroccan organizations_english.doc><lettre
> des organizations marocaines_franÃ§ais.doc>
> Wsfic_fsmci mailing list
> Wsfic_fsmci at listas.rits.org.br
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