[DEBATE] : (Fwd) RW Johnson's Zim spin

[Dominic Tweedie]

What you gonna do?

Abolish the people?

My good friend Bill Johnson likes to be a bit sarcastic in his writing, but
what is there to be surprised about? Has nobody read Nkrumah around here?
Johnson says that the NLMs have acquiesced to Imperialism. That is his way
of looking at it. But of course it is unfinished business. Zimbabwe of today
is not free of Imperialism, either. See what others have written about this.
For example in the debate on Zim Fight On.

How do we get to the position where people are expected to vote for a
cloud-cuckoo anti-Imperialism - an anti-Imperialism of fools - and starve?
Whose fault is that? Of course if you expect the poorest and least
advantaged to fight your anti-Imperialist dream battles for you, they are
going to say: Up yours! Pretty damned quick!

The way forward is with the people. There is no other way.

In struggle,

Rasta "I-know-what-I'm-smokin'-how-about-you?" Domza VC

2008/5/7 Patrick Bond <pbond at mail.ngo.za>:

> Does this help confirm the argument about SA subimperialism, Azwell?
>
> Azwell Banda wrote:
>
> >  This is so, oh, so sweet:
> >
> > "It was clear that, with a new democratic government, there would be
> > immediate British and American help, quickly followed by the EU, the
> > World
> > Bank and IMF, with the emphasis on food aid and the restabilisation of
> > the
> > currency. One consequence would be that Zimbabwe would cease to be a
> > client
> > state of South Africa and instead become more generally dependent on
> > developed country donors and investors. Doubtless, Mbeki and Mugabe
> > would
> > see this as a victory for neocolonialism, though one is bound to say
> > that
> > even if the prospect was described in those terms, ordinary Zimbabweans
> > would happily vote for it. And, in no time at all, as the Zimbabwean
> > economy
> > revived, South African companies of every kind would move in."
> >
> > I have never stopped wondering how, in the same breathe, pieces such as
> > this
> > one describe Mbeki and Mugabe as "paranoid" about "imperialism" but go
> > on to
> > perfectly describe what exactly is going to happen - a happier nestling
> > of
> > "imperialism" in post Mugabe Zimbabwe!
> >
> > Hugs,
> >
> > Azwell.
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: debate-bounces at debate.kabissa.org
> > [mailto:debate-bounces at debate.kabissa.org] On Behalf Of Patrick Bond
> > Sent: 07 May 2008 09:50 AM
> > To: debate: SA discussion list;
> > zimbabwe-fight-on-dont-mourn at googlegroups.com
> > Subject: [DEBATE] : (Fwd) RW Johnson's Zim spin
> >
> > (How much of the riff below is plausible? For example, in arguing that
> > Makoni was Mbeki's preferred man for a run-off with Mugabe, does Johnson
> > not
> > recall that Makoni - so tellingly silent these days - had a pre-election
> > run-off alliance deal with Morgan? Anything else strange
> > hereunder?)
> >
> > May 8 2008
> >
> > Where do we go from here?
> > R.W. Johnson in Zimbabwe
> >
> >
> >
> >
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