[DEBATE] : Importing "Precarity"

[Dominic Tweedie]

Class collaboration is not the same as reformism.

Trade unions are by nature reformist, (i.e. "economist") which is the
reason why it is necessary to have the vanguard party, the Communist
Party (see Lenin's "What is to be done?).

Works councils are class collaboration. To workers they are vile and
disgusting. You called them "victories" for workers. Are you a fool?

Collaboration, as somebody pointed out in an article on John McCain in
Counterpunch a couple of days ago, at least in an occupied country
like Iraq, say, is a death sentence. The distinction between the
barber who cuts a German Nazi's hair in occupied France, and a
collaborator, is a fine but crucial distinction. It is not a matter of
degree. It is a matter of life or death.

I have to tell you that I have ceased to think that you are interested
in these matters from a scientific or historical standpoint, Yoshie
Furuhashi. You do not respond to serious arguments, citations or
facts. Your peculiar combination of relentlessly affected naiveté and
false hauteur makes me wonder if you are not simply touting for
attention. I am interested in the others who may be here. I feel to
some extent bound to counter the vulgar vandalisations of history that
you go in for, at least until somebody else takes up the task.

I wonder why nobody has taken the time to correct you, over there in
the United States. Or perhaps, indeed, they have tried to do so, but
you are recalcitrant, and that is why you choose to come and afflict
us here.

You others, if any of you should be tempted to follow Yoshie
Furuhashie's latest false trail, "productivity", please read the first
few chapters of Karl Marx's "Capital", or his "Value, Price and
Profit". There really ought to be more people here who can counter
YF's jarring howlers, other than myself. Then, hopefully, she may move
on to South Georgia.

Domza.


2008/6/18 Yoshie Furuhashi <critical.montages at gmail.com>:
>
> On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 3:35 PM, Dominic Tweedie
> <dominic.tweedie at gmail.com> wrote:
> > You are full of non sequiturs and you don't know the difference between
> > reformism and class-collaboration. That means you are not yet qualified to
> > write about these matters. I suggest you go back to Sam Ginden, whoever he
> > is when he's at home, and see if he likes being called a
> > class-collaborationist. Fetch his reply back here. It should be choice!
>
> I'm not saying this or that person, or this or that organizations, let
> alone Sam Gindin, is arguing for or against class collaboration or
> reformism or whatever name you might use.  You are completely missing
> the point here.
>
> I'm simply saying that there's no denying that workers' organizations
> have difficulty resisting the argument made by capital, such as
> improve your productivity, or else we'll invest elsewhere, especially
> during the hard times, and the struggle ends up concerning exactly how
> to improve productivity with the least damage to workers, rather than
> voluntarily offering concessions in the CAW fashion that Gindin
> criticizes.
>
> > Give it a rest now, Yosh, won't you please?
>
> If you are not interested, which has been obvious for some time, why reply?
>
> Yoshie
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