[DEBATE] : NEC vote: why Manto T-M?

[Dominic Tweedie]

Also Nosiviwe Mapisa-Nqakula and some others.

The main thing is that the ANC was able to meet the 50% quota of women
with ease and with distinction in my opinion and this is an example
for the Party and will be a practical help to the Party in terms of
the female leadership that this election, in general, brings forward.

I think your explanation may partly be that Manto Tshabalala got a bit
of a sympathy vote. There are people who didn't deny the S Times'
right to do what they did to her, but didn't like it anyway.

There were people in the women's league who supported JZ and others
who didn't, and then there was the necessity to fill the 50% quota.

I think this is real democracy. People didn't do their voting with a
slate of names in one hand and the stickers in the other hand. They
had to choose 80 out of 180 and try to get not less than 41 women.
It's not so easy.

Those who failed to manage this would have been subject to a cut-off
formula which demoted some men and promoted some women.

If the election was run again with the same candidates and the same
voters the result would probably look different, but not different
overall.





On 21/12/2007, Helena Sheehan <helena.sheehan at dcu.ie> wrote:
> Comrades,
>
> Can anybody explain to me why Manto TSHABALALA-MSIMANG was elected?
>
> Helena
>
>
> >
> > 1. MANDELA, Winnie 2845
> > 2. RADEBE, Jeff 2716
> > 3. SKWEYIYA, Zola 2700
> > 4. JORDAN, Pallo 2645
> > 5. CRONIN, Jeremy 2519
> > 6. DUARTE, Jessie 2448
> > 7. SISULU, Lindiwe 2384
> > 8. MTHEMBI-MAHANYELE, Sankie 2291
> > 9. MABANDLA, Brigitte 2235
> > 10. SEXWALE, Tokyo 2198
> > 11. NZIMANDE, Blade 2157
> > 12. STOFILE, Makhenkesi 2151
> > 13. GIGABA, Malusi 2144
> > 14. MAGASHULE, Ace 2121
> > 15. MBALULA, Fikile 2116
> > 16. MOOSA, Valli 2110
> > 17. POTGIETER-GQUBULE, Febe 2091
> > 18. CHABANE, Collins 2043
> > 19. SISULU, Max 2041
> > 20. RAMATLHODI, Ngoako 2034
> > 21. YENGENI, Tony 2032
> > 22. NYANDA, Siphiwe 2005
> > 23. HANEKOM, Derek 1996
> > 24. MKHIZE, Zweli 1976
> > 25. EBRAHIM, Ebrahim 1964
> > 26. CELE, Bheki 1950
> > 27. MFEKETO, Nomaindia 1943
> > 28. MASETLHA, Billy 1937
> > 29. DLAMINI, Bathabile 1933
> > 30. RAMAPHOSA, Cyril 1910
> > 31. YENGENI, Lumka 1907
> > 32. MOTSHEKGA, Angie 1906
> > 33. MADLALA-ROUTLEDGE, Nozizwe 1905
> > 34. GODONGWANA, Enoch 1891
> > 35. DLAMINI ZUMA, Nkosazana 1885
> > 36. SHABANGU, Susan 1775
> > 37. MOKONYANE, Nomvula 1756
> > 38. PULE, Dina 1730
> > 39. BHENGU, Ruth 1729
> > 40. PHAAHLA, Joe 1726
> > 41. BOOI, Nyami 1709
> > 42. MABUDAFHASI, Joyce 1698
> > 43. ZULU, Lindiwe 1682
> > 44. TOBIAS, Thandi 1675
> > 45. LOVE, Janet 1670
> > 46. SHOPE-MAFOLE, Lyndall 1642
> > 47. DLODLO, Ayanda 1641
> > 48. MTHETHWA, Nathi 1629
> > 49. BROWN, Lynne 1623
> > 50. KONDLO, Ncumisa 1619
> > 51. MTINTSO, Thenjiwe 1616
> > 52. XASA, Fikile 1615
> > 53. MOTSHEKGA, Mathole 1613
> > 54. VAN DER MERWE, Sue 1593
> > 55. TSHABALALA-MSIMANG, Manto 1591
> > 56. MOTSOALEDI, Aaron 1591
> > 57. MANUEL, Trevor 1590
> > 58. MTHEMBU, Jackson 1590
> > 59. TOLASHE, Sisisi 1574
> > 60. MABUZA, David 1572
> > 61. SHICEKA, Sicelo 1532
> > 62. CAPA LANGA, Zoleka 1506
> > 63. MASHAMBA, Joyce 1497
> > 64. MANANA, Sibongile 1496
> > 65. JENKINS, Hazel 1496
> > 66. MUFAMADI, Thaba 1496
> > 67. LOBE, Charlotte 1494
> > 68. MAPISA-NQAKULA, Nosiviwe 1490
> > 69. MASUALLE, Phumulo 1484
> > 70. MOLOI-MOROPA, Joyce 1470
> > 71. MORULE, Playfair 1468
> > 72. DUMA, Ndleleni 1447
> > 73. NETSHITENZHE, Joel 1437
> > 74. PANDOR, Naledi 1431
> > 75. NDEBELE, Sibusiso 1427
> > 76. MAGADZI, Dikeledi 1424
> > 77. NTWANAMBI, Nosipho 1403
> > 78. JOEMAT-PETTERSON, Tina 1369
> > 79. MAYENDE-SIBIYA, Noluthando 1345
> > 80. NKOANA-MASHABANE, Maite 1337
> >
> > Issued by:
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> > Johannesburg
> > 2001
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