[DEBATE] : Re: Debate management poll: apathy & too close to call

[Caroline O'Reilly]

sounds like the ayes have it then (so to speak)


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Deborah Ewing" <deb at i-mediate.co.za>
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Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 10:34 AM
Subject: [DEBATE] : Re: Debate management poll: apathy & too close to call


Like Caroline's, my a) vote (12 May, Patrick) does not seem to be
reflected, assuming I am a W SA F


On May 26, 2006, at 8:48 AM, Charlene Smith wrote:

> Thanks for this Patrick.  It seems really wierd to break down votes
> according to race, gender, nationality - what does it matter?  Bit
> apartheid era this.
>
> I think that in any society the majority of people don't vote.  Let's
> go with the majority who voted and that would give us "C".
>
> Charlene
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patrick Bond" <pbond at mail.ngo.za>
> To: "debate: SA discussion list" <debate at lists.kabissa.org>
> Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 8:39 AM
> Subject: [DEBATE] : Debate management poll: apathy & too close to call
>
>
> Comrades, what do you think?
>
> Debate’s membership is currently 444. Since early May we’ve had a
> half-dozen new subscribers (welcome you lurkers and I apologise that
> you
> are subject to immediate soul-searching with a low degree of content).
> We had one unsub but a few days later that person resubbed (thanks).
>
> To five of you who have sounded rather shrill about the debate list’s
> ‘demise’ or imminent censorship – ok, your names are Dominic, Ebrahim,
> Peter, Tony and Stefan – I think we will all collectively e-hold your
> hands and tell you to chill out and rejoin the community after you have
> taken a deep breath.
>
> Between 12-21 May, only ten people sent me their votes (although I
> briefly had an Outlook Express crash so it's possible another one or
> two
> came in I didn't reconstruct well). That's really not enough of a
> sample, is it. And there's no clear trends that I can discern in the
> vote, below.
>
> Again, your choices were:
> > a) the status quo (very libertarian);
> > b) leave it to moderator discretion, but with an urging for more
> explicit interventions and occasional time-out periods or even
> bannings;
> > c) adopt the code of desired behaviour that Charlene suggested,
> below;
> > d) adopt a different code (suggestions welcome).
>
> Here’s the breakdown of the votes according to race, nationality (e =
> expat) and gender.
>
> a)
> W SA M
> B SA M
> W E M
>
> b)
> W E M
> W E F
> B SA M
>
> c)
> W E M
> W E M
> W SA F
> W SA F
>
> So we have 434 people voting not to vote; and the ten who voted are
> nearly evenly split.
>
> What do we do now??
>
> Ciao,
> P.
>
> (PS, to be frank I'm an 'A' voter largely because I'm bogged down in
> too
> many other things to do anything much more than the status quo - so my
> request once again is if anyone wants to take the 'ownership' of the
> debate list and all that it entails, do contact me, thanks.)
>
>
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