[DEBATE] : Re: : Re: Harvey and racism-twist

[Alan Murphy]

It is possible for humans to reproduce asexually - cloning. I suppose PM's
reference to mammals indicates evolutionary preferences towards rearing. I
was determining if I could hand him a little more rope. Try hyenas.

Alan



On 6/1/06, Dominic Tweedie <hypercube at telkomsa.net> wrote:
>
> I don't think so, Doug. Stephen Jay Gould was a scientist.
>
> Gould's point was that just because something exists in nature does not
> mean
> it had to exist. There is a lot in nature that is just random chance. It
> is
> the existence of this enormous palette of randomness or redundancy that is
> the raw material of natural selection. But just because some factor
> becomes
> critical, and is reproduced as such, does not mean that a whole lot of
> other
> and meaningless stuff is not still going to be reproduced.
>
> So actually Stephen Jay Gould's point is the opposite of what you say. His
> point is that the existence of something in nature proves nothing. It
> could
> have meaning, but it could also be meaningless. It is the scientist's job
> to
> know the difference.
>
> And then, human beings are not just unconscious "nature". Peter Mahlangu
> and
> Alan Murphy seem to be conspiring to suggest that there is a natural
> determinism which applies especially to reproduction and can therefore
> guide
> us towards a correct understanding of the woman's place, or alternatively
> the man's place, located in a tacit, unexamined concept of the home, nest
> or
> den.
>
>
>
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> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:debate-bounces at lists.kabissa.org]On Behalf Of Doug Henwood
> Sent: 01 June 2006 12:31 AM
> To: debate: SA discussion list
> Subject: [DEBATE] : Re: : Re: Harvey and racism-twist
>
>
> On May 31, 2006, at 5:57 PM, Alan Murphy wrote:
>
> > Male seahorses
> >
> > On 5/31/06, Peter Mahlangu <tshankimahlangu at yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> Doug,
> >>
> >> Look at the entire animal/mammalian kingdom, and see
> >> who takes hands-on responsibility for raising
> >> offspring.
>
> As Stephen Jay Gould said somewhere, you can find an example in
> nature to prove any point you want to.
>
> Doug
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