[DEBATE] : Re: Rape

[Charlene Smith]

No my sweetheart, this doesn't work.  If he knew her as a family friend, he 
knew her age.  The Zuma case is proving what appalling attitudes men have 
toward women in this country, including magistrates who are influenced by 
fame. Besides which he was married - I mean really, do we not even comment 
on that?  And clearly unprotected sex?  Is there no end to the levels of 
irresponsibility?
I was listening to SAfm this morning before a meeting saved me from 
listening to the rest and it had man after man with shocking views.  One guy 
from Durban said that if a woman walks into a man's bedroom wearing a kanga 
then she must not be surprised if she gets raped!!!!  What the hell is he 
saying that men are animals, that they have no self control? What do the 
women in the lives of such men say to them when they express these repugnant 
views?  Ye gods.  I listen to the radio programmes now and think, THIS is 
why we have such a high incidence of rape.

Charlene


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Peter Mahlangu" <tshankimahlangu at yahoo.com>
To: <debate at lists.kabissa.org>
Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2006 2:35 PM
Subject: [DEBATE] : Re: Rape


The prosecutor must prove, beyond reasonable doubt,
that Vilakazi knew that the complainant was under 16.
Not that she was under 16, but that Vilakzi knew this.
This is very difficult indeed.

I have many friends whose actual age I don't know (and
I'm not alone in this predicament), so to say that, as
a family friend, Tso must have known the complainant's
age, takes the matter no further.

--- Kerry Cullinan <kerry at health-e.org.za> wrote:

> The debate over the Zuma trial has certainly livened
> up the rather dead
> Debate list and there have been some great posts.
>
> But I am surprised that no one has raised the case
> of Benedict 'Tso'
> Vilakazi. The state could not even convict him of
> statutory rape despite the
> fact that his rape accuser had his  baby 9 months
> later.
>
> Even though Vilakazi's testimony was contradictory,
> the magistrate chose to
> believe that he had been "misled" by a 15-year-old
> girl who had lied about
> her age.
>
> Yet Vilakazi was a "family friend" of the girl, so
> surely this meant that he
> had known her over a few years and would have known
> that she was not 17.
>
> Did he ever even ask her age? No, he just assumed it
> and it certainly wasn't
> on his mind when he called her into the toilet.
>
> Despite the fact that child rape is a very serious
> problem in this country,
> and something govt claims it wants to address, it
> seems to be something that
> celebrities can get away with.
>
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